COVID vaccine recent large study findings

As published in JAMA:

COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination and 4-Year All-Cause Mortality Among Adults Aged 18 to 59 Years in France

Key Points

Question Are COVID-19 mRNA vaccines associated with the long-term risk of all-cause mortality?

Findings In this cohort study including 22.7 million vaccinated individuals and 5.9 million unvaccinated individuals, vaccinated individuals had a 74% lower risk of death from severe COVID-19 and no increased risk of all-cause mortality over a median follow-up of 45 months.

Meaning These national-level results found no increased risk of 4-year all-cause mortality in individuals aged 18 to 59 years vaccinated against COVID-19, further supporting the safety of the mRNA vaccines that are being widely used worldwide.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2842305?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=content-shareicons&utm_content=article_engagement&utm_medium=social&utm_term=120525

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Only because the chips haven’t been activated yet.

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It’s only because pharma funded the trials and the deep state has supported the outcome………

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Thank you. This is interesting. I just got my Covid & Flu shots this week.

I’m headed to Target this week for both Flu and Vid vaccs this week.
Unfortunately, when I discuss this type of published research, I will get responses from MAGATs identical to the ones like Thom and Andrewmc above.
Adding to my astonishment will be the confidence they have in their MD when it’s time for a procedure… “Ya, my guy is supposed to be the best in the country.” In response, I will ask “What about these JAMA researchers regarding vaccs?”
Crickets.

Like the Grinch… I sit, puzzling and puzzling.

Obviously I was being sarcastic

It blows my mind the cognitive dissonance to trust a physician to treat complex diseases but to dismiss them as not understanding the science of a disease not quite in their lane but Dave, the pear control guy, knows more about this area of medicine than the physician.

But Dave has done his research and is the smartest guy at the bowling alley.

so this vaccine will save you from car crash deaths too!

Wouldn’t one expect “all cause” mortality to be significantly higher amongst the non-vacination cohorts?

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It’s flawed, as in say you compare to a country that has masses of loss of life due to war or climate catastrophic events

If only JAMA had some way to put all the data and the conclusions out there so that they could be reviewed by other experts for these kind of obvious errors.

It’s to account for vaccines theoretically killing people. If they did COVID deaths clowns would say that all of the heart attacks in vaccinated were caused by vaccines.

Not really because COVID isn’t a leading cause of death amongst adults aged 18 to 59. However, the study did find that the non-vaccinated group despite being younger and having less cardiometabolic comorbidities had a 25% higher all-cause mortality. They just didn’t point that out in the headlines.

I don’t know why they didn’t reach out to the Bike Messenger Research Group before they put this out. Big oversight on their part.

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I still think one of the biggest flaws was portraying the vaccine as an overnight science miracle.

Before I got the vaccine, I did research on it. I’ve come to hate “do your research” because it usually comes along with a post from Info Wars, etc.

Anyway, at the time the vaccine was being distributed, it was based on modifying a 10 year old vaccine for coronavirus. That particular vaccine had been discovered by a consortium of US Army, Children’s Medical Center in Houston, and a few universities.

Maybe if they weren’t in such a hurry to day “look at the amazing thing we did in less than a year” we would not have the anti-vaxers and I would still have my BIL.

actually the headline sort of misrepresents the conclusion from the actual paper. The authors point out that the vaccine did not increase risk of dying and they feel it supports the safety of the vaccine:

Conclusions

In this nationwide cohort study of 28 million individuals, no increased risk of all-cause mortality was observed at 4 years among those vaccinated with COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. While the consistent negative association, even after extensive adjustment and calibration, suggests that residual confounding may persist, a causal link between mRNA vaccination and excess long-term mortality appears highly unlikely. These findings support the long-term safety of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines.

So they did not say it protected from death rather it did not increase the risk of death due to the vaccine.

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So you are choosing to insult my intelligence based on my current line of work?

I don’t know what that means. The abstract doesn’t mention anything about comparing to other countries. They seem to have pretty straightforward research question.

No, I think he is saying you’re not a subject matter expert in the medical science field.

Exactly.

It isn’t his line of work. It is the content of the post.