In 2001 my 9 and 10 year old escaped from their mom’s supervision and bandited the finish line ![]()
That is far from clear. There are several parts of the statute I linked above. The most relevant one applies to conduct that is “likely to be injurious” to the child. One can say that the parent’s conduct increased the risks to the child, but that’s not enough. Was it “likely” the child would be hurt? We don’t have facts showing that.
Being arrested and being prosecuted are entirely different.
“We” also don’t have the full story if mitigating circumstances played into the arrest
“We” don’t know what the child told IM Officials or LE. Don’t know if the racer pushed back and resisted stopping racing and ignored orders from LE to stop.
Did the arrest take him to jail, where he sat until judge saw him to be given bail? Or the arrest he was just given notice of order to appear? The former is extreme. Also was he a local, or traveled out of state for that race?
He is from Kenmore NY, which is more than 300 miles away.
Likely to be dismissed in court and a huge waste of time and experience for all involved. Guy will be in court next to drug dealers, DUI/DWI, and other true law breakers. Judge is going to laugh if he can even understand why he is there. Ironman bares some responsibility here. We have all experienced packet pickup and the volunteer telling us our family is not permitted. They should’ve had better protocols in place.
Can we get a downvote button?
I guess being a kid in the 90s was better, because stuff like this was normal for me to go watch my dad in cycling races. And I obviously didn’t have a tablet or cell phone in 1997…
Why is Ironman responsible? they explicit say all children in VIP must be accompanied by an adult at all times. Do you also think the warning on irons “Do not iron clothes while wearing them.” is necessary?
The young fan is going to have a helluva story to tell while he grows up and if he becomes a dad and grandparent. Imagine all the variations in his theme depending on audience and how he wants to feel.
Cool story, bro!
Since this isn’t the 70s or 80s or 90s your post doesn’t mean anything.
I was 9 years old in the 70s. I’m well aware of the freedom kids had in different times. My parents had almost no idea where I was back then. Times are different and things change. Even then my parents wouldn’t have left me alone for 16 hours outside in a strange place 350 miles from home surrounded by a bunch of strangers. You know… common sense and all.
Once again, what happens if there was a medical emergency with the dad or kid? Or if the kid decided to just wander off? Who’s responsible for the kid in those scenarios.
You’re not very bright are you? You keep saying the same kind of thing and keep being proven wrong. This was not Ironman’s fault in anyway. This was not the Lake Placid PD’s fault in anyway.
First thing you need to ask is, was the kid fine? Yes or No. If the kid was like: I’m here watching my dad, this is so cool. The mind your own beeswax.
What we have is a massive invasion of folks privacy today by people who act in their own self interest.
It doesn’t matter if the kid was fine. What part of that is so hard to grasp?
But the kid was somewhere he wasn’t supposed to be without adult supervision. They did let it go for a long time, the guy barely made the bike cut off and that’s when he got pulled. If he had been left at a restaurant don’t you think the waitstaff would have called the cops? That’s not an invasion of privacy it’s protecting a little kid and making sure he stays protected. Arresting the dad seems like overkill and adding to the kids negative experience. Seems a ticket and summons to appear would have been enough but maybe NY requires an arrest to be able to issue a summons.
I was about to hate on you americans because you are always crazy with these things. Like a nom being arrested for letting her 10 year old walk 1 mile home from bus stop/school.
But a 9 year old alone for up to 7 hours i’m.not liking it. Where is mom/friends/family?
It doesn’t matter if the kid was fine. What part of that is so hard to grasp?
Why doesn’t it? That’s all that should matter. You live in Texas, right? You understand Texas has a Free Range law, right?
New York’s laws are more ambiguous, however arresting him instead of ticketing him is where they will lose.
Was your dad racing for 14-16 hours? I would have died of boredom and embarrassment if I would have been forced to watch my dad “race” that long.
I was a latchkey kid too, I don’t know anything about NY laws to comment on the arrest. Regardless, you have to be a really lame dad to leave your 9 yo by himself bored out of his mind watching an IM event for 16 hours.
Generally 2-3 hours for those things, but nothing a box of oat meal pies can’t help with.
You’re not very bright are you? You keep saying the same kind of thing and keep being proven wrong. This was not Ironman’s fault in anyway. This was not the Lake Placid PD’s fault in anyway.
I don’t know why you’re such a grumpy old piece of shit. We are having a conversation and you keep throwing personal insults.
Because Ironman knew what was happening. They sold two tickets. One too a guy they knew was racing and one too a child. What did they think was going to happen? Then they called the police. You can keep commenting; but I’m done having a discussion with you.
