Haven’t watched the Outside coverage in years, enjoyed the YouTube broadcast instead, but there are times where the commentators just stop talking out of the blue and you just have commentary free coverage for a few min, I guess this is when the Outside ads are going on?
also, instead of complaining about the Outside broadcast, just…don’t. Watch the YouTube feed instead.
Those in the US have no choice, unless we use a VPN.
Ding ding ding
Black Friday is around the corner, you can get a 3 year sub for any of the mainstream ones for less than a box of Maurtens. Hell you can probably get a sub long enough for you and and your grandchildren for the price of a EZGains BTS
Sometimes the lack of Lovato background noise is bliss.
I don’t hate the commentary of anyone like you all do, it used to be bash Welch, now lavoto etc.
I think the problem is the event is boring, like in football you get twists and turns each play and other sports. We are basically watching people exercise faster then other people. And really the passes or group work isn’t that noticeable by the “general fan”.
The biggest parts people remember are the crashes.
Blu puking in 2023,
this year LCB pull off, Knibb passing out.
Knibb poop talk to the camera.
etc you will not get coverage of a running going from 15-3 like anna haug as we didn’t kow it would happen so there was no camera following.
I don’t think the commercials are on a schedule but rather during a peak watch time ( kind of planned for high viewer watch periods), right before water exit , bike in finish views and run finish views. those are the times you should restrict but also liking the only time a higher number of folks are watching.
I quite enjoy the commentary but Im not looking at it from the view of someone from outside the sport looking in.
For me it is a bunch of ex-pro’s who still love the sport, getting together on a low budget to bullshit with each other about races rhey used to excel at. I love it and would love to be there with them.
It very much reminds me of the Surf Lifesaving commentary here in Oz where the inside jokes from years of training and competing with each other are constant. It is great.
Maybe I can just relate and dismiss all the flaws as I’ve done a bunch of commentary myself,a couple of those times was without any notice and man ,it 'aint easy but it is fun.
Larry Ryan from the “515:The Ultra Podcast” got four of us past athletes to do a live coverage of Ultraman Australia this year…Over 30hrs of live YouTube chatter over 3 days. Oh my God!!
Cant see Ironman changing anything any time soon.
I dunno - this weekend we had a sprint to the line finish - which, objectively is an exciting event, even outside our sport.
And as it was happening, IM decided they’d cut to coverage of 4-6th place running the jetty. Then they swapped back for a moment or two to show Blu and Geens for a moment, before going to the helicopter shot that didn’t show anything. Eventually, they posted the chase on social media (it made for exciting footage!) but in the moment, they missed the best part.
Now, we can argue whether or not triathlon itself is an exciting sport (or not), but they arguably ruined the exciting part because they focused on executing whatever plan they already had for that part of the course. Normally, you’d cut to the jetty and the helicopter shot because by then the race is over and you need something to talk about (they’re nice pictures), but in this case it worked against them.
This is something as simple about broadcast decisions, and takes no money to execute better. If we’re being honest about broadcast quality - compare vs the 3-up sprint in SF last year, where T100 absolutely nailed the production as it was happening.
On the Ironman youtube, they just put out the last mile of the men’s race. THAT video should have been the last 5-6 minutes of the race. I don’t know how they continue to fuck this stuff up….
Cycling commentators manage usually to do a pretty good job at building up exitecement
IM has said that technical issues prevented them from using that as the footage. Ok, maybe we can give them benefit of the doubt on this one.
they do a good job for about 2-3 min at a time during peak parts of the event. Like a shape hill with attacks and the last 2 km of a sprint lead out. but the middle parts are coffee breaks and ok as that is the rhythm of the watch , chill for 2 hours …. bam… chill for 30 min … bam. ironman usually has large gaps the last 20 minutes. We have had some treats but all the normal human I train for ironman don’t watch this live , they see the clips on the tik tok or the insta.
good example. when guys slow in cycling to bait the guy to lead it’s drama ( commentators make a story of what they are trying to set up or do) , in triathlon we have a bunch of folks calling it bad sportsmanship and weak efforts.
It’s nothing like. The SLS commentators are super knowledgeable and can spot any athlete even while swimming, truly impressive. Especially Josh.
Bullshit…They are very similar.
I call bullshit on your bullshit. Diablo is spot on, the SLS commentary is worlds apart. Every IM swim is the commentators umming and ahhhing who is who..
It took me a will to get it . But it’s funny once I woke up.
Just hope no age groupers on the end of lap one think that’s signs for them.
Good talk today .
I think mark mentioned women in 1-3 turning down slot .
Yup these women likely don’t want to go to kona again within a 2-4 year span .
E.g female does Ironman 2023 gets a kona 2023 slot , after no more kona for me for now but 2025 Marbella . So 2024 70.3 for Marbella 2025 , now maybe back towards Kona ?? They don’t want to go back every year and some know they now can’t qualify.
Everything in the women’s division is skewed right now and it’s Ironman fault not the women’s but the blame seems to fall on the system but the system assumed everyone would take their slot .
It’s Ironman’s fault women aren’t taking their slots? To me that seems like no one’s fault. Far less women do Ironman races, is it any surprise that far less accept their Kona slots?
Ironman messed up during covid.
Andrew messick was a ceo pleaser
Sam is a people pleaser .
Adding all those extra slots and expansion gave people bad expectations. Now Sam is trying to please everyone and you can’t it’s impossible.
Just send it back to 2018 system .
Less women are taking their slots because they been there done that now .
@Kyleglass91 Where did you see “1000” women who took a Marbella slot didn’t show up? And Ironman allowed Sam Long to not be present today for slot allocation
According to ChatGPT (the reference of PTN, just did a sum of the table of the website really) there were 6100 slots available. 3279 men finished the race. 2168 women finished. 5459 of the 6100 finished. So 641 DNF or DNS over both genders.
How did he get 1000 women did not turn up? 
